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miklaszewski, nbc news, pentagon. >>> back here at home, fiscal cliff negotiations in washington are still up in the air. most lawmakers have gone home for a long weekend break. this as timothy geithner says the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins us live from washington with an update. good morning to you. >> reporter: let's start with geithner. he told cnbc that instead of continuing tax breaks for the wealthy, the obama administration is willing to go over this cliff which means they're willing to let your taxes go up and unemployment checks go away massive spending cuts happen if the pentagon instead of continuing the tax breaks for the wealthy. now there's been very little progress here on chiapitol hill which is why so many have gone home. we know that president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. republican sources telling us they had a conversation yesterday. we don't have a readout on what that was about. we don't know that if any meetings have been scheduled. but any small sign of progress is welcome here on capitol hill. now with
this is fantasy you have washington elite chanting fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff, hoping to convince republicans to do something stupid because the alternative would be going off the fiscal cliff. it is and of people, the very people trying to bully us now. all you have to say is let's break it into 12, 15 foothills, no cliffs. now one by one, solve each of the smaller problems until we get to some solutions. you don't have to panic over this i want to confess something. what i outlined for you, i copied from tip o'neil. when he was faced with ronald reagan in 1981, he knew he couldn't beat him in head-to-head negotiating but thought he could preserve the democratic party and welfare state in a long battle of attrition. o'neil who had a ran senate, republican president, used the power of house over and over again to slow the momentum. i think republicans got to understand they are not going to get any good deal from barack obama. he has contempt for them. he shows that on a regular basis. he's a hard-line left winger. they've got to think through the american people have chosen him he's going to
happened there. we are joined in moments. and the so-called fiscal cliff dominating debate in washington d.c. a lot of talk. what about the finances in state capital all across the country? folksare kind of ignoring another source of -- well, let's say inched. take a look at some of the worst offenders in the "chalk talk" here net. ♪ lou: focus nationwide is on the fiscal health of the federal government, but balancing the budget is not just a federal problem, and new rankings of this week shows some of our so-called blue states are awash in red ink. tonight we thought it would be interesting to take a look at three of those states, three of the biggest with the biggest problems. number one, of course, california. we want to credit 247 wall stet just naming california and the worst run state in all of the country. for a second ye row. way to go. one of the reasons is the unemployment rate, a pretty impressive. 11%. the second highest rate in the country. 2006 and last year. more than a third. and 16 percent of the population in california, 16 percent of the population lives below the pov
in washington. speak up for the fiscal cliff is part of the half trillion dollars in cuts to the pentagon. the defense has been saying we will not plan for sequestration's because they don't want to be cautious because it is like a gun to the head. they're now looking into planning for this because we are getting pretty late, and that may become a reality. back to you. melissa: rich edson, thank you so much. lori: let's continue this discussion. it is going to happen, it is exactly what the democrats want. according to scott hodge of the tax foundation. what are some alternatives to raising revenue? joining me with some ideas. to your point, you're written quite extensively on this topic. it seems the economy is poised to fall off the cliff and that's what the democrats and the president wants to happen. >> they want to allow all the bush tax cuts to expire. it happens naturally automatically. they don't even have to vote for it. in january we had to lower taxes for everybody. getting it very simply. lori: a lot of people are concerned. if we do go over the cliff, there's no resolution fo
of a compromise on the fiscal cliff stalemate in washington. eamon javers standing by in a moment with information on a bipartisan letter from lawmakers that's. putting tax hikes and entitlement cuts firmly on the table. >> i'm bill griffeth. let's show you, and the charts tell the day's story, as it usually does. can you get when the president began speaking at business round table and we learned that at least 40 house republicans are breaking ranks to talk about anything, all possibilities as they said in an open letter. right now the dow is up 110, near the highs of the day. 13,062.59. the nasdaq is going the other direction. blame apple and overall technology having a tough day. down 13 points right now on the nasdaq at 2982. the s&p is holding with a gain of about five points. we'll have more on the markets in a moment. first, let's get to what's going on in washington. more republicans breaking ranks to join what we hope will be a bipartisan call for higher tax rates and entitlement cuts. eamon javers on capitol hill has the very latest details for us. eamon. >> reporter: hi, bill. that lett
because of the gridlock in washington over this fiscal cliff. christine, you had a behind-the-scenes look yesterday at what's happened. >> i interviewed the ceo of fedex about the fiscal cliff, energy securities, but along the lines of the fiscal cliff there were a lot of people at this event, gene sperling, an adviser to the president, roy blount, a republican senator from tennessee there as well. people are grim right now about where we are on the fiscal cliff. i asked the ceo of fedex, he employs people. he is shipping packages. he cares about the price of oil, price of energy, and he cares about the clarity of what's happening in washington. listen so what i asked him. >> as a ceo, when you're watching the fiscal cliff, how do you make decisions? is it irrelevant to your business if we go over the fiscal cliff? how does a ceo look at what's happening in washington and decide for next year? >> most of the ceos look at the situation in washington with complete amazement and dismay to be frank about it. the problem is the ideological pinnings on both sides of this argument are so difficu
if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." >>> could going over the fiscal cliff be just what washington has wanted all along? >>> millions of americans are getting battered by a third severe storm with drenching rains, chevy snow and strong winds. details ahead. >>> and the stars were out last night for the kennedy center's honors. members of led zeppelin, david letterman, dustin hoffman and many others. we'll have that and much more coming up this monday morning on "first look." and a very good morning to you. i'm veronica de la cruz. one solution being heard more and more about solving the nation's financial showdown could be actually allowing the deadline to pass and letting america go over the fiscal cliff. that would allow tax rates to rise on everybody. then congress could come back after the new year and cut taxes on everyone but the wealthy. nbc's mike viqueira has the story. >> reporter: administration optimism for a deal. but only if republicans give in on raising rates for the wealthy. >> you think we'll get a deal by the end of the year? >> i do. the only thing th
cliff deal in washington. the dow jones industrial average gained more than 82 points to close at 13,034. but the nasdaq fell nearly 23 points to close at 2,973. the day's big loser was apple, down more than 6% over concerns that smart phone sales are lagging. former texas congressman jack brooks has died. he served 42 years in the house, and was in the dallas motorcade on november 22nd, 1963 when president kennedy was assassinated. hours later, brooks was on hand as vice president and fellow texan lyndon johnson was sworn in to the presidency. later, brooks helped author the 1964 civil rights act, and he drafted the articles of impeachment against president nixon. jack brooks was 89 years old. those are some of the day's major stories. now, back to gwen. >> ifill: lawmakers stepped up the rhetoric, but grew no closer today to agreement on how to avoid slipping over the so- called fiscal cliff. but each side demanded the other compromise. "newshour" congressional correspondent kwame holman begins our coverage. >> i have to just tell you that is a... that is a bad strategy for america
what washington needs to crack the whole fiscal cliff thing wide-open. all i'm saying is i think it has the power to bring people together simpson style. that's it for us. thanks for watching. "early start" begins now. >>> new this morning, tanks and personnel carriers stationed outside the presidential palace in egypt, clashes turning deadly overnight. rage at the new leader fears he may become the old leader. we're live from outside the palace in 30 seconds. >>> plus new reports that syria is putting chemical components in bombs. the details, straight ahead. >>> as of this morning for the first time in the history of our country, it is now legal to smoke pot for recreational purposes in a state and we are there for the pot party. good morning, welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans in for john berman this thursday morning. >> i bet you never thought you'd say that, live at a pot party. >>> good morning to you, i'm zoraida sambolin, 5:00 a.m. in the east here. >>> tension has quickly turned to deadly violence in egypt. this morning, tanks and armored personnel carriers are guar
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speaker, john boehner, both expressing optimism on those fiscal cliff negotiations in washington. the dow rallied 100 points yesterday off of those comments. how many times have you heard me say congress will mess it up. >>> goldman sachs ceo met with the president and others yesterday for those fiscal cliff talks. listen to what he told wolf blitzer when asked if taxes should be raised on those making more than $250,000 a year. if that's what it takes to make the math work when you look at entitlement side and revenue side, i wouldn't preclude that. of course we would have to do that if the numbers drive that way. >> he said america can't afford itself right now the way we're going. fiscal cliff talks today continue with geithner making the rounds on capitol hill. later this morning, third quarter gdp expected to be revised higher. economists expect gdp for july to september to be revised from 2% to 2.8%. that would be good news. this is still modest growth. everyone hopes that next year will be a better year than this one in terms of growth. you want to see more than 2.5% growth consist
after discouraging words from washington on the state of the fiscal cliff. this time it was house speaker boehner speaking with reporters after meeting with treasury secretary tim geithner. eamon javers is in washington with the latest. eamon, the sentiment down here is these guys should stop talking and start crafting a deal. >> reporter: that's the sentiment here in the hallways of capitol hill as well, sue. i can tell you that. we are starting to get a little more clarity on what's going on here today. i just had the chance just a few moments ago to button-hole senator harry reid here in the hallway, asking him a very specific question. i said did treasury secretary tim geithner come up here with a new specific offer for republicans? is that what he laid down on the table for speaker john boehner today? reid told me -- no, there was no specific offer here today from geithner to the republican side. he said that the president of the united states made the democrats' over two weeks ago and there's been no new specific offer since then. i think that explains a little bit of why we
republicans want to solve washington's fiscal cliff dilemma, and what the democrats are saying about it. we'll talk about that, and much more with our special guest this morning, the former british prime minister tony blair is with us. but planes from iran. revolutionary guards showing off what they are claiming to be is a captured american drone. coming up why the pentagon says don't believe it. >>> and baby makes three at buckingham palace. the royal couple, will and kate, creating a media frenzy on both sides of the pond with word that they are expecting. we're going to go live to london. >> talk about this morning, in addition to tony blair, we're talking to democratic congressman xavier becerra, republican senator ron johnson from the state of wisconsin, also pat houston, whitney houston's sister-in-law and manager and jeopardy champion ken jennings written a new book. it's tuesday, december 4th, "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome everybody, you're watching "starting point." we're honored this morning to have the former british prime minister tony blair with us as our guest
, too. you know, as the fiscal cliff discussion approaches in washington, there is a lot of talk about budget cutting. do you worry about in this era of austerity that less money is going to be spent on things, important things like worker safety? >> i think we should all be deeply worried about that, because the risk of spending less on safety is going to result in people being maimed, disfigured hurt, killed on the job, where it doesn't have to happen, the disaster at the upper big ben mine wasn't an accident. it was the result of a willful disregard of health and safety and a failure to enforce that effectively. in an era of budget cutting we risk repeating that. >> well, there were some other -- there was other news today out on the industrial front, which is we also learned that two b.p., british petroleum rig supervisors and former beep executive pleaded inning from charges stemming from the 2010 deep water horizon rig disaster. they claim their scapegoats for higher ups like former c.e.o. tony hayward. b.p. had fines on the civil side. do you think that they were being scapegoat
, the backdrop for why things are so difficult to do here in washington. the fiscal cliff, we just heard from the president and with julie anna on bloomberg, his first interview about the latest state of play, and a lot of people are asking why can't they get together? why can't they meet? they were together at the christmas party at the white house last night and there was no real conversation along the sides between the president and speaker. >> right. in the same room but did not talk. you know, andrea, i think you heard in the clip in the opening, president obama is insisting a balanced approach and we've talked about this before, balance is in the eye of the beholder. john boehner would say this is a balanced approach, we're putting revenue on the table as well as entitlement cuts. president obama seems to be indicating balance means getting more from the wealthy and likely to mean raising rates. as he said today and prior to today, the math doesn't add up if you simply close loopholes, cap deductions, do those sorts of things. we're sort of where we always have been. it's where we have
what might be the political consequences if washington fails to stay clear of the fiscal cliff. cbs news political director john dickerson is here with some thoughts on that. john, good morning. so all of this posturing, to what degree is this this is how the sausage gets made versus this is a legitimate stalemate? >> well it's kind of both at the same time. they are both posturing because both knows to get a deal they want to basically express the most extreme versions of their positions because they know they have to carve away at it they are speaking to boston their bases. on the other hand there's still a sticking point at the center of this. if you clear away everything and look at the tax rates the president says tax rates have to go up on the wealthy by some amount. republicans are saying no we won't have any vote to raise tax rates and that's an impasse -- we don't see how we get around that. >> the president is embolden by his alexandria victory. he's taking it out to folks out on the street. he's acting like he feels he has a mandate to ask for these tax
of cars made before 2012 will not. up next, president obama meeting with everyone about e fiscal cliff, everyone except for the leaders in washington d.c. for the republican party. we will share our list of eople that the president might also want to think about sitting down with. it might have just about as much affect as president obama plane taxman. how much higher? we will show you what some suspect about the math in d.c. in the "chalk talk" next. [ malannouncer ] it'that time of year again. time for cii price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't wt to pay more an you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. buy now. save later. citi price rewind. nfc, afc, offensive lineman, defensive tackles, quarterbacks and cornerbacks are all living united. to ensure the acadic success of millio
around washington, d.c., and he does have a point. so if the fiscal cliff talks were happening in texas, there would be lots of talk of the two-step, but they are not. former president clinton describing the negotiations as a different kind of dance. it's a kabuki dance, sort of like two dogs that meet each other through a piece of meat. sniffing each other out. they're moving towards a deal. that's what's going on. clinton is optimistic a deal will be reached. ♪ >> and start using those precious social media skills -- >> it's all about gangnam style for former senator alan simpson. that's how he's trying to get his message out about the fiscal cliff. he explained why this morning on "today". take a look. >> i thought the guy said pretending you're riding a horse and lassoing steer. let me tell you, you have to reach young people. >> it's hard to read when you're coughing and laughing all at the same time. it's problematic, people. so, from alan simpson to the animated simpsons, mr. montgomery burns explains the fiscal cliff. >> think of the even xhooe econd the ri as a car. if you do
solution to avoid the fiscal cliff. take a look at an abc news washington post poll that shows 60% of americans support upper income americans having their taxes raised. 37% oppose it. on issue of reducing deductions, 44% support that. 49% oppose it. much like lawmakers they realize there is a big problem that needs to be fixed but divided on how to fix it. >> in addition to the goings on in the capitol there is a big lunch at the white house today. governor romney coming by for a bite to eat. a lot of speculation about what might be discussed at the meal and the possibility of maybe future job? >> jay carney pushed back on that yesterday. the president said there was no suggestion here that he had a special assignment for him. the president invited mitt romney to come to the white house because he wanted to talk about moving the country forward. the president pointed out that out there on the campaign trail mitt romney had good ideas. he wanted to talk to him about that. not necessarily partisan ideas but ideas like job creation for the middle class. the president pointed to mitt
rather childish about the fiscal cliff, this is not child's play. u days left and susan rice facing new skrcrutiny today fro democrats. this time about her personal investments and the number of drones has surged. the newest versions though, pretty incredible. they look like a cheetah and a fish. let's go "outfront." >>> good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, a washington stop playing battleship. yes. battleship. we went out and bought it because we wanted to remind you, the kids game where the goal is, i'll read it, can you sink your opponent's fleet before your opponent sinks yours? pretty perfect. this fiscal cliff though is not child's play. it's just 33 days away and today, president obama's visit to a toy factory in pennsylvania had everyone acting a bit childish. >> i've been keeping my own naughty and nice lists. >> we're not interesting in playing. >> i wasn't going to have him building roller coasters all day long. >> sure, who doesn't want to be a kid again, but washington, you have real work to do. a looming fiscal cliff and what are we hearing? as jef
your business this morning, markets in a holding pattern as fiscal cliff talks continue in washington. but the s&p 500 is up 12% so far this year. and a 20-year veteran investment strategy at goldman sachs, abby joseph cohen, she estimates stocks could rise another 10% to 15% next year. she says the fundamentals of the u.s. are solid, despite the fiscal cliff concerns coming out of washington. she says stocks could get hit in the early part of the area if we go over the fiscal cliff, but the fundamentals of the economy are still good. >>> all right. apple stock dropped more than 6% yesterday. shares were down about half a percent in pre-market trading this morning. no concrete news pushing them down, but today there's another hearing in the patent case with samsung in california. and a tech research report generatored a lot of buzz that apple's tablet competitors could eat into its market share. >> interesting. >> thanks, christine. >>> well, the good news is, let's do the fiscal cliff and the good news. and it's not very much. but at least the two sides are talking, by phone. not fac
than its namesake metals. we'll explain. more tough talk today from washington on the fiscal cliff: treasury secretary timothy geithner said he's willing to go over it if republicans don't agree to tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. president obama said basically the same thing but added one more hard line to the negotiations. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to a debt ceiling vote and take us to the brink of default once again, as part of a budget negotiation-- which, by the way, we have never done in our history until we did it last year-- i will not play that game. >> late todathe president spoke by telephone with house speaker john boehner. no specifics on what they said to each other, but it was their first conversation in a week. eventually the two sides will get down to bargaining over specifics, including entitlements. one idea may be to change the way the government measures inflation. that may sound like a small change, but, as darren gersh reports, it could have a big impact. >> reporter: if the price of oranges goes up, cons
sweaters. >> we are also talking about as julia was commencing there the fiscal cliff now what washington the gridlock means i think it's most telling because what senator matt baucus from montana said we have 31 days left yet. we are not near a deal yet. we can't expect any sort of a deal with any weeks before christmas i would think. >> the big knock on the president through the this process has been a failure to lead. i think one that sticks rather well. because, instead of sitting down with john boehner. instead of trying to hash something out. he is out there again campaigning, gives speeches, instead of being the one that sits down and gets this deal down. here is the president on again what appears to be the campaign trail yesterday in pennsylvania. >> santa delivers everywhere, i have been keeping my own naughty and nice list for washington. >> [ laughter ] >> you should keep your eye hun gets some connects this year. some members of congress who get them and some who don't. i'm ready to sign it. there are no shortage of pens in the white house. and i carry one around for an emerg
, the fiscal cliff isn't all they're talking about in washington these days. they're also talking playoffs. cnn's brian todd has a closer look at the teams' rookie savior. >> reporter: nicknamed rg3, this 22-year-old has mesmerized the entire city, captured the hearts of football fans throughout the nation's capital. a 2011 heisman trophy winner from baylor and number two overall pick, rg3 is helping to instill a winning attitude as the redskins rebuild. >> accelerating, sliding down, lost the ball, into the hands of joshua morgan. >> reporter: he may be the only person who can actually unify washington. redskins rookie quarterback robert griffin iii. the phenomenon that is rg3 seems to be immuned to pressure. he took another step closer to an improbable playoff run by leading the redskins to their third consecutive win monday night over the defending super bowl champion new york giants. cnn spoke to him in may, shortly after he was drafted. >> it's not about, hey, we're a team that have only made it twice in the past 12 years in the playoffs. it's a team, we have a new start, a new quarterback
of washington, if we go over the fiscal cliff by december 31, is there a big opportunity for this market to sell off? it doesn't seem like it's priced in that we go over. >> maria, if we go over the cliff, sure, we're going to have a reactionary selloff. when you look at the fed now talking about qe-4, economic statistics are getting better, not worse. europe is slow e lily resolving issues. >> that reverses in the first quarter if we go over the cliff. >> it depends how we go over. if we go over for a couple days and they get a deal, it's fine. if this thing really breaks down, sure, that's not priced in. i don't think that's where we're going. >> you're from california, correct? >> i live there, yes. >> doesn't make you a bad person. >> i'm from buffalo too. >> it explains why he's stylish, right? well, i live in california. we voted to raise income taxes and sales taxes. california is, what, one-seventh of the u.s. economy. >> jerry browne's miracle. >> i'm going to get a bill as well as every other californian asking for money. >> what is your point? >> that will have a negative impact on th
and a lot of people down in washington saying they don't want to go off the fiscal cliff. as far as grover norquist notices, i don't think republicans should be caving to a special interest of one, frankly. we do see some brave republicans coming out there and they should be supported because they are about finding a solution. >> i want to show this tomb the president playing golf with former president bill clinton. how much do you think fiscal cliff was coming up during their golf rounds? >> i'm sure they talked about it because president clinton is a political wonk. what bill clinton showed during his presidency is that there's a way to show common ground with republicans who hate you. they impeached bill clinton but made a deal. they made a deal that was nor the right of where most democrats are. this president has a unique opportunity to make a deal for more towards his left. remember dick cheney said to -- speaking of sequels. remember when dick cheney said you got the high approval ratings you can spend them on the iraq war. republicans what they want is the president to spend some o
on how you could go about getting a debt deal in washington. up next, from burritos to the fiscal cliff, a little food for thought in our american made series. we have the president of moe's southwest grill. "squawk box" is back right after this. >>> checking the futures now, they will probably see a bit of an opening move higher. see if anyone talks. today more on what's moving the markets this morning frin a coue of minutes. peter is very quick on the gun, as you can see. i think i saw it from peter that mitch mcconnell was laughing yesterday and i saw boehner. comes out immediately. at the end of the week he goes back and says this is what was good about the week this is what was bad. we will get the comments firsthand. >> are american made company today is sizzle. 2012. pretty spicy profits. paul davaco, president of moe's southwest grill joins us. good morning, paul. >> good morning. how are you? >> let's talk about how -- how is business and what is -- how business is at your franchise and your company telling us about the health of the consumer? >> the business today could not be
with lawmakers today about possible spending cuts. he's also getting ready to take his fiscal cliff message on the road. he'll try to convince the american people the best way to avoid the fiscal cliff is to extend the bush era tax cuts for the middle class. >> it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> reporter: president obama is putting pressure on congressional republicans and he's enlisting middle class americans in getting the gop to take action on taxes. >> when the american people speak loudly enough, lo and behold congress listens. >> reporter: tomorrow he'll host a campaign style event where he calls on lawmakers to extend the tax rates on families making less than $250,000 a year. once that's done they can work on other details such as spending cuts and changes to the tax code, medicare and medicaid. >> he's out there campaigning for his position. i get it. we understand it. at the end of the day he has to lead on this issue. >> reporter: some republican lawmakers have said they are willing to compromise on the tax issue. oklahoma representative tom cole said the gop
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be apple. >>> to washington now. the soap opera we call the fiscal cliff. before we get to our chief washington john harwood and the president is meeting with another grouch ceos, i need to start with eamon javers on capitol hill where lawmakers are skipping down early for a long weekend. eamon, wasn't thanksgiving just a couple weeks ago? >> it was. let me check michael ichaey cal. you see rank and file members of congress leaving the capitol. they are done for the week. they're headed back loam to their hometown districts. a lot of folks focused on this negotiation right now but the reality is that the negotiations are taking place among just a very few, very high level people. i was talking to a few rank and file members yesterday who said they were frustrated there is not a whole lot for them to do, they are just sitting around here waiting for some break-through in these negotiations. they want something to do on the floor, in their offices and there is not much for them to sink their teeth into. now they're going into their district. leadership is going to stay here and continu
guest in studio talking about the fiscal cliff and other political news from washington, d.c. yesterday, a historic luncheon at the whitehouse. >> peter: we are not serving turkey chili. we put up a picture of obama and romney in the oval. it's about as close as romney will ever get to that desk. we have it up on facebook for a caption contest. share yours. we will share some of the best ones on the air. facebook.com. >> we are just getting started. >> just getting started. nothing yet. we will let you know here soon some of the captions we get >> bill: go wild. be wicked. peter: have fun with it >> bill: i hope he rubbed it in a little bit. you thought you were going to win. >> do you want to have a seat in this chair? just kidding. >> bill: i. >> i am wondering if he was like, barack, can i have a seat? i hope he at least asked. i am not saying obama should have let him. >> bill: i doubt that he asked. >> i think the president would be thanks for coming down. we appreciate you a well-fought. >> bill: the president unlike the three
on the fiscal cliff with just 29 days to go before it takes effect. the late fles washington. >>> here are your headlines. chinese factories pick up the pace in november. both in expansion territory. another month of contraction for manufacturing in the eurozone. still in the grip of the crisis. the white house and congress may need to call the auto club to jump-start budget talks which are now stalled on discussions over taxes. and singapore airlines confirms it's in talks to sell its stake in virgin atlantic. media reports suggest delta is amongst the frontrunners. this is the start of your global trading week. hope you had a good weekend. not a bad month for european equities. a little bit mixed. down 2% over the last two months. nasdaq up just 1% last week. today we're slightly higher. the dow is about 7 1/2 points above fair value, 6 1/2 for the nasdaq composite, and we are pretty much on fair value for the s&p 500. this is where we stand right now in europe. the ftse global 300 steady. just up four points. european markets had a much better november than u.s. markets. european equities ou
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in washington and we go off the fiscal cliff? what happens to medicare? what happens to the beneficiaries? >> well, we're going to have a very big whack at the system. the important point is it's not going to be strategic. that's not a very good thing. it's not just medicare benef beneficiaries. in the sequestration, lots of other programs get hit. so you've got to be very careful, here, plus the republicans constantly say we don't want to become like greece. what's driving off the fiscal cliff look like? it makes us look completely irresponsible as if we can't control our own spending and put in order some priorities. >> so some health care will be suffering? >> that's absolutely true. we want to incentive doctors ask hospitals to keep people well. not to just do procedures. and that's the key to really transforming medicare. >> i want to show you a map of the states that are refusing to implement the insurance exchanges. it's rather interesting. the other states are either implementing the exchanges or haven't decided to do that. if states don't decide to do it and the federal governmen
. athena jones, live in washington. we'll talk about the prospects for a deal on the fiscal cliff in the next half hour when we're joined by democratic congresswoman sheila jackson lee of texas and republican congressman tim huelskanm. >>> the united nations general assembly voted overwhelmingly yesterday to upgrade the status of the palestinian authority to non-member state. palestinians celebrated this endorsement of the move towards statehood. but the united states and israel strongly opposed the resolution. cnn foreign affairs reporter elise labott is in washington to explain what it all means. why do the u.s. and israel think this is not a good move for -- for palestinians? >> well, christine, i mean, it signals the frustration on the part of the world, and the lack of the peace process. and what the u.s. is saying is that it really doesn't give the palestinians what they want, which is an actual state. it doesn't give them borders. it doesn't give them any sovereignty. and so all of their u.s. argues is going to do is antagonize israel and lead to more frustration if israel
today, you know, what's going on in washington and, you know, with this fiscal cliff and, you know, what the impact will be of it. >> well, it's an important point. how is the project funded? where did you source the funding for the development? >> that's one of today's challenges. you don't get to the same costs you would typically get them. it requires more equity and piecing together the banks to put together a loan of the size needed for this. probably our greatest challenge would be -- because we're looking to build. this is only 1,700,000 square feet, in the first phase 6 1/2 million, where's the rest of the capacity to come from for the construction loans that we need? >> the banks were the first source? >> yeah. >> and we're looking at other sources going forward that are kind of unconventional. you have to think outside the box. >> oh, definitely. >> in order to do a job like this today. >> what kind of unconventional sources? >> well, you have a lot of these public reits, you know, that are looking for greater yields, so it's the whole period, i don't know how you do constructi
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